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Re: (ASCEND) Q. Can you run servers behind Pipeline (running NAT)?



Sure can.  We ship Pipeline 50's with V5.1A loaded and NAT enabled to 
clients with SMTP servers etc sitting on their LAN. The traffic is routed 
by port number.  All traffic from the outside world is sent with the 
destination address set to that of the Pipeline (yeah, needs a static 
allocated to it) so for example:

SMTP goes to 123.123.123.123:25
WWW to 123.123.123.123:80
Telnet to 123.123.123.123:23
FTP to 123.123.123.123:21
etc...

As the only address that's visible to the outside world is that assigned by 
the MAX (or whatever the Pipeline's connecting into) then ALL services 
behind the Pipeline are known by that address.

All the hard work is done by the Pipeline with what it calls 'Static 
Mappings' - these simply map traffic with a destination address of the 
Pipeline coming in on (say) TCP port 25 to the local IP address of the 
server running that service and the port it's running the service on.

ie SMTP traffic comes in (Port 25) and needs to go to server 11.22.33.44 on 
port 25, so the static map says 'Any traffic inbound on 25 gets routed to 
11.22.33.44 on 25'

You can even set a default 'route' for traffic not covered by the static 
maps.

I'm not clear as to what path to take if multiple servers exist for a 
service but it'd probably involve a bit of port-mapping somewhere along the 
line.

Check the release notes for V5.1a on Ascend's FTP server for a more 
detailed discussion of NAT and it's implementation.

Hope this heps

Tony Lloyd - Network Sstems Engineer
Onyx Internet

-----Original Message-----
From:	Edwin Yeh [SMTP:ery2@po.cwru.edu]
Sent:	Wednesday, November 12, 1997 10:00 PM
To:	edwin_yeh
Cc:	ascend-users@bungi.com
Subject:	(ASCEND) Q. Can you run servers behind Pipeline (running NAT)?

I don't know exactly how NAT works. (I'll be interested to know. All I can
guess, is that when the packet exists the router, somehow the header
information is wrapped.)

But can you run servers (such as ftp server or web server) behnid the
Pipeline router (running NAT)?

In other words, is there a way for outside users to point to a specific
machine inside the NAT subnet.

Thanks.

Edwin

P.S. I can think of a solution. That is, don't use NAT and run DNS after 
the
pipeline router. The DNS effectively become the router and the pipeline
effectively become a Terminal Adapter. But if this is the case, why buy the
pipeline. We can do it with ~$150 ISDN TA. We are using pipeline because
it's cost effective for a subnet running multiple machines and the router
performs better than the computer. However, functionality will come before
performance. If we cannot solve this problem, we will be forced to drop the
pipeline solution.

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