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Re: (ASCEND) Q. Can you run servers behind Pipeline (running NAT)?



That's exactly what NAT is doing...

At 09:12 AM 11/13/97 -0500, Lou Melograna wrote:
>Is there a way to statically map IP bogus addresses to a valid IP  address
in order to be hit 
>from the outside world?
>
>Lou.
>
>------------------------
>  From: Scott Chrestman <src@netropolis.net>
>  Subject: Re: (ASCEND) Q. Can you run servers behind Pipeline (running
NAT)? 
>  Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:24:56 -0600 (CST) 
>  To: Edwin Yeh <ery2@po.cwru.edu>
>  Cc: ascend-users@bungi.com
>
>
>> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Edwin Yeh wrote:
>> 
>> > I don't know exactly how NAT works. (I'll be interested to know. All I
can
>> > guess, is that when the packet exists the router, somehow the header
>> > information is wrapped.)
>> 
>> From http://www.ascend.com/895.html :
>> 
>> When the Pipeline first connects to the NAS, it receives an initial IP
>> address via PPP negotiation. The Pipeline then builds a
>>  lookup table that matches the workstation's bogus address with the
>> registered address that the NAS assigns. The Pipeline
>>  re-addresses packets destined for your workstation (i.e., destined to the
>> registered address) with the bogus address it actually has.
>>  This translation is transparent both to the workstation and to devices on
>> the WAN. 
>> 
>> > 
>> > But can you run servers (such as ftp server or web server) behnid the
>> > Pipeline router (running NAT)?
>> 
>> Yes you can run them, but users from the outside world will not be able to
>> hit them.
>> 
>> > 
>> > In other words, is there a way for outside users to point to a specific
>> > machine inside the NAT subnet.
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> > 
>> > Thanks.
>> > 
>> > Edwin
>> > 
>> > P.S. I can think of a solution. That is, don't use NAT and run DNS
after the
>> > pipeline router. The DNS effectively become the router and the pipeline
>> > effectively become a Terminal Adapter. But if this is the case, why
buy the
>> > pipeline. We can do it with ~$150 ISDN TA. We are using pipeline because
>> > it's cost effective for a subnet running multiple machines and the router
>> > performs better than the computer. However, functionality will come
before
>> > performance. If we cannot solve this problem, we will be forced to
drop the
>> > pipeline solution.
>> 
>> I totally dont understand what you mean by "The DNS effectively becomes
>> the router", as they are two TOTALLY different things, doing two TOTALLY
>> different functions, but your overall answer is NO.  Go buy a Motorola
>> BitSucker Pro for $150, and save some cash.
>> 
>> Scott R. Chrestman
>> System Administrator
>> Netropolis Communications Corp.
>> src@netropolis.net
>> 
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