> The question is "What is the market penetration of Quake among > customers of ISPs AND buyers of ISDN modems?" Trust me, not worth answering or asking. I know a couple people in the Quake business, and there is little money to be made there. > How much money do Ascend's ISP customers make on Quake players? > How many Quake players crave bandwidth and are therefore good > prospects for a Pipeline? Quake players do not pay their bills. ;-) > How many customers of ISPs have to vote with their feet on an > issue before it becomes an issue for the ISP and Ascend? So are you arguing that Ascend SHOULD spend money to devise a work-around so that Quake works properly with Nat? ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Jake Messinger 713-772-6690 jake@ams.com Advanced Medical Systems, Inc. jake@uh.edu 8300 Bissonnet #400 fax: 713-774-3498 Houston, Texas 77074 <A HREF="http://www.ams.com/~jake">http://www.ams.com/~jake</A> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10363.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: James Fischer <jfischer@supercollider.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10373.html">Re: (ASCEND) Pri for ISDN and Analog</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10374.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10367.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10360.html">Re[2]: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#10370"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd226.html#10370"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>