> Well said... I agree 100%. Full releases should be tested (and they are by > a lot of the users when the new full release was the last in the prior patch > release). But for those who want the 'beta' code (ie - patches, > incrementals, etc.) Ascend provides that as well. I strongly disagree! We're not talking about fancy *beta* code with new features, some folks around here are just desperate to get their boxes into a working condition. With the current release our max 4000 reboots every three days. each time kicking many *paying* customers. Am we asking to much when we request a fix for problems like that? Other open tickets are also forcing us to upgrade (V34 performance issues, K56/V34 compatibility issues etc...). In the meantime our quality of service is lacking, due to these issues. > The result - "bleed edge" > as it's been called. Where the fire sometimes gets _real_ hot. :) Just the > way I like it. I couldn't care less about bleeding edge technology, these patch release are primarily designed to fix bugs and to make existing technology (like K56flex) work. We paid a substantial amount of money for our boxes and IMHO it's not too much to ask that we get them working as advertized. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Oliver J. Albrecht <olli@allcon.net> AllCon GmbH Lise Meitner Str. 2 D-24941 Flensburg EMail: allcon@allcon.net Tel: +49 461 9992-162 Fax: -165 ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10914.html">Re: (ASCEND) 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Jason Nealis <nealis@babylon.erols.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10904.html">RE: (ASCEND) 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Chris King <cking@ipa.net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10910.html">(ASCEND) Static IP's for dialin</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10909.html">Re: (ASCEND) TNT tntcall does not work</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10904.html">RE: (ASCEND) 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10914.html">Re: (ASCEND) 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#10908"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd245.html#10908"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>