You hit the nail on the head! Ascend has been saying that they regression test every full release. If so, why are there so many patch releases? We have many 4004s deployed in our POPs. While we are running versions of code that appear to be somewhat stable, we still don't have the functionality that the boxes were sold to us for. The TNT is another issue. We have had the TNT since Oct 9, 1996, and the box still only functions as a space heater. Versions of code come our that fix one issue to only break others. With the TNT we have been running 1.3Ap2 because there are problems with RIP-2 and OSPF in anything newer (read this as they broke previously working code in a newer patch release). On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Robert Tranter wrote: > I think that everyone is missing the larger point with the patch release > issue. Rather than getting Ascend to test the patch releases better, we > need to get them to test the full releases better. Why should it that 34 > patches to the 5.0 release to get most of their advertised features to > function at a basic level. As far as I am aware, HDLC issues are > stilloutstanding, OSPF still does not work, and we cannot get modem code > that remains stable from patch to patch. > > So we all buy the same old line from Ascend about supporting complex > systems and that if we can just wait for the next patch/incremental/full > release all of our problems will be solved. I have had Ascend equipment > since November of 1995. That tune has gotten really old over two years. > So I await release 6.0 of the code to fix functionality sold to me 2 > years ago. Any one want ot bet on how many patches it takes in 6.0 to > fix OSPF, HDLC, etc.? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Robert C. Tranter > Crusoe Communications, Inc. > 973-882-1022 > tranter@crusoe.net > www.crusoe.net > ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ > To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com > To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> > Michael Lucking Traveller Information Services Systems Administrator 2104 West Ferry Way Michael@Traveller.COM Huntsville, AL 35801 205.883.4233x7015 ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10985.html">(ASCEND) Re: 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Robert Tranter <tranter@crusoe.net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10995.html">Re: (ASCEND) BGP 4 ?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10993.html">(ASCEND) For sale: Pair of Pipe75s</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10985.html">(ASCEND) Re: 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg11007.html">Re: (ASCEND) Re: 5.0Ap34</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#10994"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd250.html#10994"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>