CF: Re: Crossfire bug

["Michael Toennies" <mtx93@informatik.uni-bremen.de>]

Hi Mark
The idea to check the area and put out a smaller monster when it don't fit
is very good.

I have some problems to play some gods, for example Gnark, because i summon
fast
a big troll as monster and i can't clear with him the small passages with
skulls or demiliches.

Also is the difference between the summoned monsters a little bit to strong.

Sorigs avatar is unbeatable. It kills 99% of all strong monsters.
Blue dragons get kicked in some seconds - buit they should be immun to
the avatars lightning attack???? A red dragon also get killed easy with 2
avatars
in a row.

With Gnarks trolls you have no chance to kill most undead monsters... And
most
dungeons are full of skulls. No chance, i try some minutes but nothing
happens,
they seems immun.

I prefer to give a summoned avatar a special attack like godpower. Then most
of the
suckers do some good damage to the crowds and thats what are they needed
for:
To clear areas and kill bigger monsters from safe.

To make other avatars stronger don't change the play balance because its
always
dammed dangerous to go in a line to a dragon and cast him (i know what i say
:-) ).

And there is no other game balance affecting aspect on avatars because there
many other good ways which have the same effect (spells, rods, etc.).

And the good aspect is thats more players plays different gods. I think that
should be
major task. Also the other god powers (immunities, etc.) needs some small
adjustments to
the characters, so we have a better alternative for different gods  like
Gnark.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Wedel <mwedel@scruznet.com>
To: Kimmo Hoikka <Kimmo.Hoikka@Digia.com>
Cc: <crossfire-bugs@ifi.uio.no>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Crossfire bug


> Kimmo Hoikka wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > There was also another bug with gorokh. Sometimes when you try to summon
cult
> > monsters it crashes the server. I think it is because the gorokh's cult
monsters
> > are big demons and demonlords which require much room so the spell is
trying to
> > create a monster that can't fit to that room. A few times I have managed
to summon
> > a Big demon so that it is partly over a wall.
>
>  Yeah - I just recreated this.  The summon cult monster function doesn't
seem to
> check the placement for multi square monsters work properly.
>
>  My guess on the crashes is that a big monster was summoned near the map
edge,
> and some a piece of it was off the map - this then creates a situation
where you
> have problems.
>
>  I am going to start re-writing that function now.  While it would not be
hard
> to put simple checks into the placement of big monsters, I think it should
also
> revert to smaller monsters if the big monster does not fit, and that
requires a
> little more work.  I may also change the logic for choosing the monster,
since
> the function right now has a 50/50 chance of stopping on each monster in
the
> race list that is less than the power range of the spell - to me, this
then
> makes it much more difficult for gods that have lots of pet monsters,
since
> getting the last one (and hence the toughest), is much more difficult than
it is
> for gods who have few pet monsters.
>
>  summon pet probably has a similar limitation, but I don't know if any
multi
> space pet monsters exist, so it may not be something that is encountered.
At
> some point, summon_cult and summon_pet functions should get merged, since
I have
> a feeling that there is lots of similar code.
>
>  I'll send out further mail when I finish with the cult_monster code and
checked
> it into the cvs tree.
>
>
> >
> > Mark Wedel wrote:
> >
> > > Kimmo Hoikka wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I found out that as a follower of Gorokh I can't
> > > > use avatars... the server crashes every time I cast a summon avatar
> > > > prayer.. I tried it in many areas and it does that every time. the
> > > > avatar appears but when it moves one step the server crashes
> > >
> > >  I've fixed the problem in the cvs tree - the gorokh.arc file has an
invalid
> > > animation (says Lucifer, should be devil).  I've checked in the
specific .arc
> > > file, but there is a lock on the lib/archetypes file so I can't check
that one
> > > in.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > hoikka@verkonmerkki.fi
> > > > www.hoikka.com
> > > > +358407380747
>
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