nevermind - found my answer by looking in /etc/services 443 is https for anyone who cares. -- Amy Tanner Voice: 612.943.8700 Real Time Enterprises, Inc. Fax: 612.943.8500 amy@real-time.com http://www.real-time.com PGP fingerprint = 67 6C 8F DB B1 7A 8D 41 DC 7B CA 0B 28 1E 67 AD