I give up :) Never schedule for a team, honest :) Team15 vs SoD 9:00 PM EST / 6:00 PM PST clue.ls.berkeley.edu -p 4566 / 4000 (SoD) -p 4577 / 5000 (Team15) Same spiel...SoD may need some subs, Team15 may need 1 (but unlikely). Hop on SoD's port first 'cause I'm sure everyone will be lost with the 20,000 server changes! -KB