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Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT



I must quote Dale Botkin, the first reply of this thread:

> Why would this be Ascend's problem?  Some brain-damaged programmer writes
> something that can't be played through anything doing NAT, and it's an
> Ascend problem?

James Fischer wrote:
> 
>         The question is "What is the market penetration of Quake among
>         customers of ISPs AND buyers of ISDN modems?"

A better question is "How much money is Ascend losing on the issue?" 
I'd say about $0.

>         How much money do Ascend's ISP customers make on Quake players?
>         How many Quake players crave bandwidth and are therefore good
>         prospects for a Pipeline?

Ascend probably makes more money than other router companies on the
Quake issue.  Ascend routers run quake just fine when no address
translation is used.  Ascend's multi-ip address NAT mode works great
too.  What more can other router companies offer?  Quake doesn't work on
any single-ip address based proxy.

>         How many customers of ISPs have to vote with their feet on an
>         issue before it becomes an issue for the ISP and Ascend?

Ascend shouldn't be worried about you leaving on this issue... where are
you going to go?  It's not like Cisco, USR, or Livingston have hacks to
id's Quake UDP bug.

-- 
Jason Eggleston
SysAdmin, Jet.Net Inc.
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