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Re: (ASCEND) 5.0Ap34
At 09:52 PM 11/24/97 -0500, Jason Nealis wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Jorge Paramo wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Jason Nealis wrote:
>>
>> > test. If they pushed everything through full regression testing then you
>> > would only see a patch release once a month. The main focus of
>>
>> Yes, but that would make those patches a LOT more effective than the ones
>> they have been releasing lately...
>
>Correct, But then the topic of this flame would probably become, Why
>does it take ascend a month to release a patch release to fix a
>certain bug. etc..
Were you around when _that_ was the complaint ?
There are many answers to this problem, as you can see from this thread,
everyone has different ideas - we all have the same goal.
We *did* have longer release times in the past, and didn't make patches
available (except to targeted customers who had to sign beta agreement forms).
That was not acceptable either...so we made those BETA releases available to
everyone with a few README disclaimers....they were sometimes too unstable...
so we got different complaints...
Then we split the branch to patch and incrementals....trying to keep only
bug-fixes in the patch branch and new features only in the incrementals
branch.
ONCE AGAIN that was not good enough - we were asked to add new features to
"stable" patch releases - so now we *occasionally* add enhancements to patch
releases. More complaints? - You bet !
We are trying to do the best to satisfy the largest number of customers, so
some
will not agree on our methods or approach, we cannot please everyone from what
I've seen so far (and I've been doing this now since the VERY early days of
Ascend - 7 years ago).
As I mentioned a few weeks ago, we are working on a more methodical
approach to
software releases - all taking into consideration what you guys have been
telling us. The releases will likely come out more staggered - so the time-to-
market complaints will likely be back, but the level of stability will
hopefully
be increased in both patch and feature releases.
I suspect that we will announce/make available the details when 6.0 is
released,
but I have no firm date for when that will be yet.
Kevin
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