Herein you see the essence of the culture clash between ISPers and Telco-ites... The telco world has ALWAYS moved very slowly. But even before ""The Internet"" hit the front pages, they were getting dragged kicking and screaming into a rapidly changing world: T-carrier was out, OC-192 in. Crossbar is passe, CLASS is now daily bread... and so forth... They don't adjust well. They'd really rather just hand more Elpath rather than this glass stuff. And now those damn Netnerds have invented Warp drive; while Ma is still adjusting to those damn jet aeroplanes.... It just ain't fair. Who is right? That depends... -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <STRONG>Follow-Ups</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10562.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend stock (fwd)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Josh Bailey <joshb@xtra.co.nz></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10552.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend stock (fwd)</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: Josh Bailey <joshb@xtra.co.nz></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10554.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend stock (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10549.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend stock (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10551.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend stock (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10562.html">Re: (ASCEND) Ascend stock (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#10558"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd233.html#10558"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>