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Re: [TCLUG:4202] Windows Refund Day?

I have trouble believing that significant progress will be made this way.
Microsoft is the master of spin and they have deep enough pockets to drown
out any islands of dis-satisfaction that may appear among the largely
happy masses.

You know, it's not as if cooperating with this type of backlash is in
their best interest at all.  How can it be when people are simply out to
get them shut down, broken up, etc.?!  I don't agree with some of their
practices, but I'll leave the disingenuous act of going completely ABM to

-----Original Message-----
From: Serge M. Egelman <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:4202] Windows Refund Day?

This is true, but basically what the was said on slashdot was:
    If they (being either Microsoft or the manufacturer) refuse to uphold
part of the EULA, the whole thing is void.  And therefore, Microsoft WILL
action when people start freely pirating the software (signifcantly more
what happens currently), and when they start getting all the bad press
more than they currently are).


Vince Platt wrote:

> I just read a story about this on CNET.  A bunch of people tried to get
> the MS office (where I don't remember) to demand a refund.  They found
> elevators locked on the MS level of the building and basically got sent
> home.  They continued their picket on an adjoining parking ramp and
> eventually just dissipated.
> The official line from MS seems to be "see your manufacturer" since the
> language in the license doesn't make MS responsible for the refund.
> *shrug*  This one doesn't seem like it will get real far; there doesn't
> seem to be a basis for a class action suit on the terms of the license
> itself.  Anti-trust concerns could provide enough fuel for a suit - but
> bigger fish are already on it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hicks <>
> To: TCLUG <>
> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 1:09 PM
> Subject: [TCLUG:4202] Windows Refund Day?
> >Just curious if anyone on the list had tried to do anything for Windows
> >Refund Day.  I seem to remember hearing some rumblings about it a few
> >weeks ago, but it didn't really sound like much was going to happen in
> >this area..
> >
> >Anyway, I don't qualify for a refund myself -- I'm just curious.