RE: [TCLUG:4588] Gnome

[Brady Hegberg <bradyh@bitstream.net>]

I timed Gnome last night on my AMD K5-200/64MB - it was 35 seconds to start.
It would be interesting to hear what other people experience with Gnome on
slower/and faster machines.

I believe the goal of the project is to be able to run Gnome in 16 to 32MB.
I personally think that it could be unfortunate if they target the program at
computers from 1990 rather than looking to the future.  Perhaps they will
be able to do both.  I certainly hope so.

>I don't want to start a KDE vs. gnome battle (PLEASE, don't!), but in the
>interest of your friend, you might try KDE. I'm running KDE on a P-120 on
>the desk behind me with 16Mb of RAM with no problems. Just timed it with my
>watch: ~80 seconds from "startx" to full desktop with a kterm, though when
>you start running a big app like Netscape, it starts disk-swapping a lot. My
>120 with 48Mb is a little faster with almost no disk swapping, and my
>K6-2/350 with 128Mb...well, you get the picture!
>
>It's still not a speed-demon, but probably a LOT better than the trouble
>you're having. It has also been quite stable, with no KDE-related crashes
>since 1.0 came out. Our previous discussion also indicates that you can
>still have gnome/GTK libs installed to run those apps too. I have to say I'm
>reasonably impressed with most of the K apps. I haven't found anything SUPER
>cool, but the basics are very solid and compatible. It's also super-friendly
>for people with Win95 experience (they ripped it off), and I even just read
>an article where (*gasp*) a Mac user found it acceptable! Over-all, it isn't
>the coolest or most fashionable thing like Enlightenment on gnome, but it's
>very solid and usable. That's probably more important for a newbie who wants
>something simple to setup/use.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Neal
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yaron [mailto:jethro@yaron.org]
>> Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 4:14 PM
>> To: tclug-list@listserv.real-time.com
>> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:4588] Gnome
>>
>>
>>   Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Michael Hicks wrote:
>>
>> > Unfortunately, Gnome isn't the greatest speed demon on the planet..  I
>> > think the 1.0 release takes longer to start than some other recent
>> > versions, but I might just be imagining things..
>>
>> Not the fasters is an understatement.
>>
>> The reason I'm looking at it is I've got to setup Linux for a friend who
>> lives kinda far away (Chicago), and I'm trying to make it as simple as
>> possible for her... waiting over 2 minutes for Gnome to start is not a
>> good thing.
>>
>> > It helps to have plenty of memory (I have 64MB, and it looks like it's
>> > getting a bit tight... *sigh*), and a decent speed processor (I ran
>> > Gnome 0.99.x on a P166 without complaints..  Now I have an K6-2 333, so
>> > it's better than it was..
>>
>> I've got 128MB, and a K6-2/300, and it took 2 minutes, during which the
>> CPU was not heavily loaded, and memory consumption did not go up wildly.
>> It was running and releasing things.. I'll look at it again when I get
>> home.
>>
>> My friend's got an old Pentium/133. Guess Gnome's not going to be working
>> for her, is it (:
>>
>> > Heh..  if that happens, you may want to whack your ~/.gnome directory,
>> > or maybe only some of the files in there.
>>
>> Yeah, except I don't know which. I assumed that's where Gnome hides all
>> it's config files, like what's on the panel.
>>
>> > Window Maker is not fully Gnome compliant (although I think they said
>> > they were..)
>>
>> Yup, they most certainly did.
>>
>> > I run Enlightenment, which is definitely improved from earlier versions,
>> > but still has it's problems..
>>
>> I remember trying to run Enlightenment on a 486 (: Anyway, I'm not really
>> an E fan.. maybe when they get to a lean, stable version. Still, it LOOKS
>> great.
>>
>> > I know that gmc is highly unstable, but I haven't had many problems with
>> > gnome-session.  I have heard that gnome-session doesn't talk well with
>> > apps running as root, so if you were just testing as root, I'd recommend
>> > testing as a user.
>>
>> The only thing I do as root is compile/install things. I don't really know
>> what gmc is - it crashed while trying to play... uh... one of the games, I
>> forget which. And while moving things around. And when the cat sneezed in
>> the other room...
>>
>>
>> -Yaron
>>
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