> My point is that there are LOTS of brain-damaged, non > RFC-compliant, quirky piles of very poorly written > software out there. Most can be ignored as "broken". true > There are SOME that qualify as "killer apps", and > Quake is a good example. Does this mean quake is written well or poorly? > Quake (and other net games) are good for business. They > clearly differentiate the garage operations from the mil-spec > operations, so gaming is where a well-equipped ISP shines. I disagree. I think quake (and other net games) are bad for business. This is, of course, my opinion, and comes from personal experience. > Quake (all by itself) likely "sells" quite a few ISDN modems. > Ascend sells such devices. Perhaps. It would be great is if someone had a source for this sort of information so that manufacturers and ISP's could make intelligent decisions as to who/what to support and request. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Jake Messinger 713-772-6690 jake@ams.com Advanced Medical Systems, Inc. jake@uh.edu 8300 Bissonnet #400 fax: 713-774-3498 Houston, Texas 77074 <A HREF="http://www.ams.com/~jake">http://www.ams.com/~jake</A> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10375.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: James Fischer <jfischer@supercollider.com></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10383.html">Re: (ASCEND) Digital Modem Use</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10381.html">(ASCEND) Max 4030 reboot</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10381.html">(ASCEND) Max 4030 reboot</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10385.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#10382"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd226.html#10382"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>