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tclug-list Digest 24 Oct 1999 02:25:38 -0000 Issue 444

Topics (messages 9369 through 9376):

dual ethernet module loading
	9369 by: Jim Raney <seumas@mad-seumas.net>
	9370 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>

kernel compile habits/practices
	9371 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
	9372 by: schewe@tcfreenet.org

Cursor freezes in X
	9373 by: "John R. Sheets" <dusk@ravendusk.org>
	9374 by: Ben Kochie <ben@nerp.net>

newbie kernel questions...
	9375 by: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
	9376 by: schewe@tcfreenet.org

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:11:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jim Raney <seumas@mad-seumas.net>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991022230839.255A-100000@foshay>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9366] dual ethernet module loading

Try adding "alias 3c509 eth0" and "alias 3c509 eth1" (or the format may be
reversed, ie "alias eth0 3c509", can't remember right now) in
/etc/conf.modules and see if that loads them both correctly.

--

Jim Raney

"I poured spot remover on my dog.  Now he's gone."
		--Steven Wright

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:

>         at the recent installfest, I got my new firewall-to-be set up with 2
> ethernet cards (3c509s). it took several advanced people some time to figure
> out that we needed to put '/sbin/modprobe 3c509' at the end of
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, to make sure the modules were loaded.
>         I decided to upgrade the box to RH 6.1. (foolish me).
>         since then, I can't get the modules to load at boot time.
>         I put '/sbin/modprobe 3c509' in rc.sysinit; and at boot time I see
> "can't locate module 3c509"
>         trying the same command from the command line after boot, also gives
> "can't locate module 3c509".
>         trying '/sbin/modprobe /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/net/3c509.o' gives 'no
> dependendcy information for module /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/net/3c509.o"'
>         so I tried doing a 'depmod -a'; which generated a modules.dep file
> (just like the /lib/modules/2.2.5 directory had). still gives the same error.
> 
>         I can get the modules to load if I do:
> insmod 3c509
> ifup eth0
> ifup eth1
>         but I tried doing this at boot time (putting those lines at the end
> of the rc.sysinit file); and it always gives a "resource busy" error (or
> something like that) at boot time.
>         
>         what's wrong here?
>         would putting some boot parameters into lilo help? (I wouldn't think
> so, but...)  if so, what should they be?
> 
> thanks,
> Carl Soderstrom
> System Administrator	307 Brighton Ave. 
> Minnesota DHIA		Buffalo, MN	
> carls@agritech.com	(612) 682-1091
> 
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:51:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9366] dual ethernet module loading

>Try adding "alias 3c509 eth0" and "alias 3c509 eth1" (or the format may be
>reversed, ie "alias eth0 3c509", can't remember right now) in
>/etc/conf.modules and see if that loads them both correctly.
        that's already there. doesn't seem to make any difference.

        I'm just going to compile a kernel and monolith the modules.

thanks anyway!
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator	307 Brighton Ave. 
Minnesota DHIA		Buffalo, MN	
carls@agritech.com	(612) 682-1091



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From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 07:56:29 -0700
Subject: kernel compile habits/practices

        when you compile new kernels for several machines, do you usually
just install the source and compiler on each machine; or do you do your
compiles on one central machine, and then distribute the kernels to each
machine that needs it?

still new to this kernel compiling...
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator	307 Brighton Ave. 
Minnesota DHIA		Buffalo, MN	
carls@agritech.com	(612) 682-1091



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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 10:39:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: schewe@tcfreenet.org
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9371] kernel compile habits/practices

On 23 Oct, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote:
>         when you compile new kernels for several machines, do you usually
> just install the source and compiler on each machine; or do you do your
> compiles on one central machine, and then distribute the kernels to each
> machine that needs it?
> 
I generally do all my compiles on my development machine then
distribute my kernels to my other machines.  That way I don't need
compilers on the other machines.  Saves on space and helps with
security.
-- 
Jon Schewe 
http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe
schewe@tcfreenet.org



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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:40:27 -0500
From: "John R. Sheets" <dusk@ravendusk.org>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <19991023094027.A29498@ravendusk.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9348] Cursor freezes in X

On Oct 21, 1999, Peter Lukas <peter@math.umn.edu> wrote:
> Try these:
> o Kill GDM if it is running.
> o Check for an IRQ conflict between mouse and another device (doubtful
>   -- `cat /proc/interrupts`).
> o Run top on an xterm and watch for what happens the next time the mouse
>   freezes.

No luck with any of these.  GDM was running, but now isn't.  
No IRQ conflicts, and no extra activity when it freezes.

Thanks anyway.

John


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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 11:30:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ben Kochie <ben@nerp.net>
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.20.9910231129560.25096-100000@chef.nerp.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9348] Cursor freezes in X

i just started noticing this problem at work, guess what, it happens on
alpha also, i noticed the problem when i switched my mouse from Serial to
PS/2.. 

Thank You,
        Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)

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On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, John R. Sheets wrote:

> On Oct 21, 1999, Peter Lukas <peter@math.umn.edu> wrote:
> > Try these:
> > o Kill GDM if it is running.
> > o Check for an IRQ conflict between mouse and another device (doubtful
> >   -- `cat /proc/interrupts`).
> > o Run top on an xterm and watch for what happens the next time the mouse
> >   freezes.
> 
> No luck with any of these.  GDM was running, but now isn't.  
> No IRQ conflicts, and no extra activity when it freezes.
> 
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> John
> 
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To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
From: "Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom" <carls@agritech.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:51:26 -0700
Subject: newbie kernel questions...

        I finally got a new kernel to compile under RedHat (it seemed much
easier under Debian, but maybe I got lucky). I'm trying to install it, and
don't understand exactly how this is supposed to go.
        I copied the old /boot/vmlinuz to /boot/vmlinuz.old; then copied
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage to /boot/vmlinuz
        I edited /etc/lilo.conf to such:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=0
default=linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz
        label=linux
        read-only
        root=/dev/hda1

image=/boot/vmlinuz.old
        label=old
        root=/dev/hda1

I tried to leave alone stuff that I didn't fully understand.
I tried running /sbin/lilo thereafter, and it tells me:
        'Kernel /boot/vmlinuz is too big'
which seems strange, since the old kernel was 622K, and my new, leaner
kernel is only 451K.

questions:
what does /boot/vmlinux do? i'm guessing it's the uncompressed version of
the kernel. is it generated at boot time, or do I have to copy the one from
/usr/src/linux/ ?

why is it 'vmlinux' instead of 'linux'? I can see the name 'vmlinuz' comes
from 'compressed vmlinux', but why the 'vm'? 

why is the kernel compressed?

why does lilo tell me that /boot/vmlinuz is too big, when it's smaller than
the previous one?

why is there no man page for lilo, and only these doc files? (man pages are
eminently more convenient, IMHO).

thanks,
Carl Soderstrom
System Administrator	307 Brighton Ave. 
Minnesota DHIA		Buffalo, MN	
carls@agritech.com	(612) 682-1091



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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:06:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: schewe@tcfreenet.org
To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [TCLUG:9375] newbie kernel questions...

There are detailed instructions at
http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe/linux/kernel-compile.html


-- 
Jon Schewe 
http://eggplant.mtu.net/~jpschewe
schewe@tcfreenet.org
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