At 11:45 AM 2/21/00 -0600, you wrote: >startx > /tmp/startx.debug 2>&1 WTF?! I did this and the bloody thing LOADED. *insert about a minute of crazyinsane laughter* I gotta tell you, this is the ugliest f*cking display I've ever seen in my life, but there it is.... Katie harrisk3@worldnet.att.net