Aureal is promising a fully opensource and open specs release. Sounds like they have to iron out some legal issues first, as well as do some code cleaning. I would have gotten the SBLive! if it had an Optical SPDIF port. -- |> Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://www.ringworld.org |> "Mistakes are a fact of life. It's the response to error that counts." |> -- Nikki Giovanni