Re: [TCLUG:19737] hello? (Citrix Metaframe)

[Kent Schumacher <kent@structural-wood.com>]

Ben Kochie wrote:

> yea, that's my current problem, we arn't a company with deep pockets, yet
> we have these windows apps that we can't live without.. (supplier
> provided, no souce, crappy VB/access stuff)  and we need them avaliable
> all over the place for part info lookup.
>
> Thank You,
>         Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)

This is exactly the problem I have.  We work with several large lumber companies
and they all provide these awful visual basic programs to provide sizing information
for their products.  The damn things fail as often as they work - I consider the things
less productive and more destructive than a virus.

Unfortunately they will not provide sizing information in any other form (I've even offered
to write sotware for them in a real language and been turned down - they consider
visual basic to be a desirable feature).

Ok, I've vented  I feel better now.

My interim solution is to have a single windows box hooked into the network and using
VNC to allow our users to access to it via their X-Terminals one at a time.  No one is
happy.

Oh well...
Kent



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> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 jrsmit2@uswest.com wrote:
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> >
> > I run two metaframe servers, one using citrix winframe, and one using
> > windows terminal server.
> >
> > They work, but they take GOBS of admin time.  You must remember there's
> > nothing about Windows NT's design that enables it to be a real multi-user
> > environment.  I'd consider either product a tremendous hack, and most every
> > application has a seriously hard time dealing the the concept (gasp!) of
> > multiple users using the same applicationat the same time.  So you have to
> > wrap everything in registry hacking scripts in order to make it work, set up
> > your profiles seperatrely, etc, etc.
> >
> > That wouldn't be SO bad, if Microsoft wanted their Windows Terminal Server
> > product to exist, but they don't.  So they charge you an arm and a leg for
> > it, plus Citrix ain't cheap, and any non ICA (Citrix's terminal protocol)
> > prouct is even more.
> >
> > I don't recommend it unless you're at a company with deep pockets.
> >
> > Jer
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Kochie [mailto:ben@nerp.net]
> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:48 AM
> > To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> > Subject: [TCLUG:19737] hello?
> >
> >
> > list seemed kidna dead today.. figured i'd start something off..
> >
> > citrix metaframe to provide windows apps to linux
> > networks.. good? bad? anyone besides chewie used it before? :)
> >
> > Thank You,
> >         Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)
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Kent Schumacher

Structural Wood Corporation
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