RE: [TCLUG:13004] AP Comp. Sci.

[Ben Kochie <ben@nerp.net>]

see, now you really don't understand computer SCIENCE, you are talking
about computer programming, "under the covers" stuff is not what computer
science is about.

Thank You,
        Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Michael Hentges wrote:

> Recursion has always made my head hurt. And there are just way, way too many
> ((()))) in lisp/scheme! (and what the @#$#@$ is a "lambda" anyway...)
> 
> I realize that C++ (my preferred language) isn't exactly pretty, but at
> least you get a little bit of variety!
> 
> Its not that I don't get it - I aced those "scheme" CSci classes - but my
> brain just doesn't work that way.
> 
> I think beginning computer programmers should first learn a dialect of basic
> (preferably one that has type safety) to figure out the basics of what a
> for() loop and if/then/else statements are for. After mastering this, they
> should learn some C (or a sub-set of C++) or assembly to _really_ understand
> what is going on underneath the covers (and so they can appreciate what all
> of these new languages can do for them).
> 
> Then on to java or C++! I'll have to check out python - heard of it, but
> haven't played with it yet. Of course my thinking may be influenced by the
> fact that this is the order I came to the computer programming profession
> (starting with the Apple II basic, then assembly...) but it has served me
> well so far...
> 
> Mike.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Dier - dieman [mailto:dieman@ringworld.org]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:50 PM
> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org
> Subject: Re: [TCLUG:13004] AP Comp. Sci.
> 
> First day of CSci this year (UMN-TC CSci 1901, Scheme) was where the
> question was raised, "What do computer scientists do?"
> 
> Not only do they program... but they must solve problems.  They must
> construct algorythms... among other things I dont remember anymore :)
> 
> Scheme is an excellent language for playing around with a method to do
> something without having to worry about how your doing with syntax, IMHO.
> 
> Plus, it gets you to think about your code. :)
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Ben Kochie wrote:
> 
> > are we talking about Computer SCIENCE, or are we talking about Computer
> > PROGRAMING now?
> >
> > Thank You,
> >         Ben Kochie (ben@nerp.net)
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